Lost and other things!
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Okay, first, does everyone know about
propheting's Katrina relief fund efforts? Just want to make sure, because it's such a good cause (and you GET FIC!). Basically, you can bid on D/G authors to write whatever your heart desires, and the winning bid goes to the Red Cross. Most people don't even restrict what they'll write to D/G, so you can get them to write practically any pairing that interests you. Go check it out; some great authors are already up for grabs, so get your bids in (I'm not sure when bidding closes). Jade and I have both volunteered also, so I'll let you know when we're up (should be very soon).
Now on to the frivolous part of this entry.
1) My erstwhile roommates are now gone, and there's always this adjustment period I have to go through when I have company and then am suddenly alone again. There's this jumble of feelings: sadness, relief, loneliness, fear. The sadness and loneliness get canceled out by relief (I really prefer to live alone), and the fear (absent the security that two other people in your house provides) pretty much goes away. Especially as the Brinks people came on Sat. morning and I now have an alarm that could wake the dead when it goes off. My new fear is that I'll forget it's on in the middle of the night, or the morning before I've turned it off, and wander out of my bedroom, setting it off and creating a false emergency for law enforcement people. (And btw, yes, there is a way to turn the alarm on, but leave the motion detectors off. Whew.)
2) Fanart!
twiddlekinks drew Draco and Cho from "Playing Dirty"! It's super cute, and brings back some fond memories of the writing of that story. <3 Also, it took me until now to find this beautiful D/G drawing by
starlettegurly, which she says was partially inspired by "A Bed Made for One." Yay! I'll totally take "partially inspired" by the mega-talented Kara. And last, but not least, here is the Luke/Lorelai by
tiny_q that I commissioned for Jade's birthday. Seriously, is it not awesome? I don't know how all you artists do it.
3) My Lost S1 DVDs arrived last week. I'd never seen the show before, and have thus far avoided all mentions of it on my flist so as not to get spoiled. I was spoiled on something (fairly minor) when I was still watching Alias and would turn on the TV too early, but other than that, I began watching with a fairly clean slate. After Jade and Robbie left, I was pretty much glued to the TV. I've now almost finished all 6 discs, and I think I'm either at the finale or two eps from the finale.
Lost thoughts...
*** I haven't watched the finale, so please don't spoil me on anything that happens after the episode where Michael, Walt, Jin, and Sawyer sail off on the raft and the other group finds the Black Rock. Thank you. ***
I'll structure this the same way I structure my HP canon thoughts: character/ships/plot.
Characters
Jack: I like Jack, but I don't like Jack. I like him as a character (and I like Matthew Fox), and I generally have enjoyed watching the flashbacks to his past. I thought that one ep where he's all freaked out about being the leader was extremely out of character given his behavior up to that point, but whatever.
Kate: I want to like her more than I do. I really like the whole deal where she was the one being escorted by the U.S. Marshal, and I don't really have any issues with Evangeline Lilly ... but I think her behavior on the island, considering her past, has been somewhat OOC as well. And the more I see of her past, the less I like her. I don't know what she did in order to be a wanted criminal at this point, since most of what we've seen (including how she got Tom killed) has been after she was already on the run. And I'm sorry, but the story of how she wanted that toy plane back, and broke into the bank to get it from the safe deposit box? Kinda lame and weak. If she wanted it that badly, why leave it in the backseat instead of quickly grabbing it? And staging a whole bank heist to get it -- why wouldn't the U.S. Marshal have had that location scoped, since he used the item to taunt her? All rather contrived. Right now I'm most intrigued by Kate's mom's reaction to seeing her daughter at the hospital -- what in the world did she (supposedly) do?? I hope the answer isn't disappointing. It's probably some misunderstanding that poor little Kate had to deal with, when really she's just an angel. 8-|
John Locke: Is he supposed to have an analogous relation to the political philosopher? This does sound like him, though, doesn't it? "Locke wants each of us to use reason to search after truth rather than simply accept the opinion of authorities or be subject to superstition." Well, the beginning part sounds like him; the latter part is not him at all, given his faith in the mystical forces of the island. I really like Terry O'Quinn, and I like his Locke. I really dig his story (the thing about his father was totally heartbreaking, though really, he should have known when it was the same dude who kept trying to put Christian Bale in jail in Newsies), and I find that I really like him, and want to trust him -- but I don't. They've shown him too often standing alone, with creepy/ominous music playing over his image, to make me feel that all is well with him. Plus there's the whole thing where he just seems kind of unbalanced -- his single-mindedness, hiding the hatch, his faith in "the island."
Sawyer: OMG HOT. I love Sawyer. I love his checkered, tragic past. I love his dimples and blue eyes. *sigh* I bet he'd clean up very well. I disliked him a LOT at first. He wasn't just an asshole, he was stupid. But the more we learned about him, the more I liked him. Now he's probably my favorite character. Can we say Redneck!Draco??
Charlie: Charlie annoys me. I don't dislike him, but generally I have no interest in him. A lot of people like Dominic Monaghan, and if I did, I'm sure that would help me like Charlie better. But I don't, so I don't. <g> And I was totally and completely done with him when he killed Ethan. That was the stupidest thing ever. And where the hell did his gun come from??
Claire: It took me awhile to like Claire, because a) pregnant women don't interest me; their issues are always the same (thus boring); b) I hated Tess (and blamed that partially on Emilie de Ravin, who played her). But I warmed to her, particularly after seeing her story (plus I was impressed by her Australian accent -- not knowing until just now at the IMDB that she is Australian, heehee). She's either greatly improved as an actress, or Roswell didn't give much for her to work with. I'm willing to believe that both is true.
Clarie's baby: I think she ought to name it Boone. Possibly his spirit went into it when he died. :D Was Claire's baby infected with evil when she disappeared, and that's why it needs her "goodness" and to be raised by her? But if the cause of it being evil is the byproduct of the psychic deliberately wanting to strand her there so she'd keep the baby, it doesn't make any sense. Also, the whole thing where he sends her to LA, ostensibly knowing the flight would crash on the way, doesn't make any sense. All he wanted was for her to raise the baby. When she saw him after refusing to sign the adoption papers, she was pretty much going to keep it. So why change his tune, looking like a total fraud, to make her do something she was already going to do? Just to ensure it? I dunno, that seems kind of weak. It'd probably have been stronger if he'd suggested the LA couple during the period when he was trying to convince her to keep it, and be like, "Okay, since you're determined to give it up..."
Sayid: I really liked Sayid right up until he got together with Shannon, and then I was kind of done with him. Plus his backstories don't interest me much. I still like him, but not as much as I did at first.
Hurley: Come on, who doesn't like Hurley? He rocks.
Boone: I was fairly good with Boone until the episode where he died, and then I liked him much more, and was soooo sad about him being the one to get killed off. I can't remember whether it was that episode or a previous one where we finally learn the backstory to his and Shannon's relationship, but I was really into that storyline. It was so, so sad that he died without her there, and obviously she was his last thought. I think that's probably why my feelings toward Sayid cooled. Poor Boone. I wish his death hadn't been the real one, because I wanted to see him get with Shannon! Grrr.
Shannon: Haaaaaaaated her initially. Grew to semi-like her, and then she was off diddling Sayid while Boone was dying, then hated her again. I'm not sure if I believe that she wasn't in love with Boone; I'm not sure she really knows what that feeling is, given what a total spoiled brat she was/is. But I'm back to neutral about her, after seeing her reaction to Boone's death and since Walt gave her Vincent. <3 Vincent.
Jin: I didn't even know Daniel Dae Kim was a regular on the show. I know him, of course, as Gavin from AtS. It's so weird to watch him play this character who can hardly speak a lick of English, when his English is flawless (since he grew up in the U.S.). I keep expecting him to break out in English (and I don't know why they didn't take advantage of it during his centric episodes, do the same thing that they did with Sayid, where they pan away for a second and then instead of subtitles they're speaking in English, though you understand that they're supposed to be speaking in their own language), or be the one who secretly knew English. Jin was someone I had to grow to like. I didn't like him at first, but that feeling thawed as the show went on.
Sun: I like Sun. I like the actress who plays her, and I dig her storyline.
Michael: Michael, like Sayid, was someone I grew to like less as the show progressed. He's just whiny, and belligerent, and his parental skills leave a lot to be desired. I know there are reasons for that, but I can't say it really much matters to me. I didn't like any of the people in his story, except maybe for Vincent.
Walt: I generally like Walt. I like that he told his father about burning the first raft. I'm interested to see where his storyline is going to go, considering we know he's "different." But I wish he'd told someone other than Locke not to open the hatch. *sigh*
Ships
Jack/Kate: Far too obvious from the beginning, thus earning it zero points in the "interesting" department. Also, as with all JJ Abrams ships, too much happens, too fast. The very first week, Kate drops everything, including the very important thingy that Sayid needed to get done, in order to help move rocks and get Jack out of the cave? WHATEVER. Like she even knows him at that point. And given her past, I can't believe that she would fall for someone that quickly, or trust them that quickly either. So it was out of character and far too soon for that kind of behavior even had she been a normal woman with no baggage.
Kate/Sawyer: I find this one more interesting to watch, but mostly because of Sawyer. But I like this one less than Jack/Kate, because a) I don't think Kate deserves Sawyer; b) she's obviously more interested in Jack, and Sawyer should have better than that; c) they're too alike (in a bad way, unlike Buffy and Spike, who I think are alike in a good way) and d) it's too much like shipping Draco/Hermione.
Charlie/Claire: This one kind of came out of nowhere, and I'm not particularly interested in it, since I don't like Charlie and Claire is only vaguely intriguing as a love interest.
Sayid/Shannon: As already said above, this one irritates me. I don't like it.
Shannon/Boone: Really liked this one, and was disappointed that it was clearly not going to work out.
Jin/Sun: Grew to like it. When I didn't like Jin I was rooting for Sun/Michael, but that's pretty much passed. It's soooooo tragic what they were each planning when they got to the airport in Sydney. :((
Claire/Sawyer: Okay, this isn't a canon ship, but I think it's the one I'd be most interested in. Jade mentioned it when I was on disc 2 or something, and I while I could see why it might interest her, I wasn't intrigued with it myself. But two moments in the upcoming eps changed my mind: 1) When Sawyer calls Claire "mamasita" and proceeds to brag, "She likes me."; 2) When his voice was the only thing that would calm her baby. <3 Sawyer needs a bit of goodness in his life, someone like Claire. And I think he'd probably be a really great dad for her baby -- and great between the sheets for her. <g> At this point, he's practically reformed, so I think this is a reasonable ship to sail on... (boy does that sound familiar).
Plot and Other Stuff
* One of the problems I've had with the show is that it introduces too many big/important things, and then 'forgets' about them until later -- but in a way that doesn't make any sense. Claire disappears, and there's NO search effort for her? If she hadn't wandered back on her own, how the hell did they expect to get her back? Or did they just give her up for dead? I mean, not even Charlie was like, "We have to organize a search party!" And what about Locke's legs? We're shown that he's losing feeling in them, and then after Boone dies he doesn't seem to have problems walking anymore -- so are they fixed again or what?
* The 'monster' in the woods? So not scary. I don't get scared by bushes moving around. We never get to see anything -- or even the hint of something. How the hell do they know it's huge, when it's like, invisible?! I hate that.
* Why was Jin shown to be all "let's keep to ourselves" when discussing the others with Sun, and then suddenly passing food out to people? WTF? That bit of OOCness made me think he was trying to poison them on purpose or something! Speaking of Jin, why did he freak out when he saw the watch on Michael's wrist? As if Michael's supposed to know it was something he was going to deliver to LA? As if Jin wouldn't know that given the circumstances, Michael wouldn't know jack shit and it wasn't a sign of disrespect or anything?
* I've really liked how much planning went into the overall storylines, and so we see all the little things that don't make sense at first, but then are connected together. JJ Abrams is really good at that -- Alias was the same way. I just hope Lost does not go the way Alias did, although I've given up hope re: any of his ships.
* I'm intrigued by what the numbers mean, and what the Black Rock is, and how everything fits together, but I'm also leery. It could be very cool, or it could be overhyped suspense, the way the stupid toy airplane was. My problem with it is that there are too many pieces, and I'm just not sure that they'll all tie up in a neat, cool bow. I'm afraid they'll X-Files it. And speaking of XF, I'm just not sure how much of it is going to be some science fiction/fantasy explanation -- whether it'll involve mystical forces, or aliens, or what.
* I don't know how/what they're going to do for S2 of this show. I mean ... is it going to be a Gilligan's Island thing, where they're just stuck there forever (until they get canceled)? Are they going to get a new group of plane crash survivors every season (I can't imagine that's the case)? Are they going to get off the island? None of those scenarios really appeal to me. Maybe they'll all wake up and it'll be 2 years in the future. </sarcasm>
* Continuity issue: Kate claims to be a vegetarian, but don't we see her eating bacon and eggs at the farmer's house in Sydney? Did she become a vegetarian during the subsequent time she spent there, which seems unlikely given that it's a farm and vegetarian food choices wouldn't exact be abundant?
Despite these issues here and there, I think it's a fantastic show. I'm glad I got to see it commercial-less and not drawn-out, and it's been very difficult to turn off my TV in order to sleep/clean/unpack. I know my mom will really like it, so that'll give her something to do when she visits next month while I'm at work. :D
But because I basically powered through all the episodes, I've missed all the dissecting of the episodes that goes on in fandom, and probably the nuances of certain characters/relationships as well. So have I missed anything? Other than the (no doubt big and important) stuff in the final eps?
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Now on to the frivolous part of this entry.
1) My erstwhile roommates are now gone, and there's always this adjustment period I have to go through when I have company and then am suddenly alone again. There's this jumble of feelings: sadness, relief, loneliness, fear. The sadness and loneliness get canceled out by relief (I really prefer to live alone), and the fear (absent the security that two other people in your house provides) pretty much goes away. Especially as the Brinks people came on Sat. morning and I now have an alarm that could wake the dead when it goes off. My new fear is that I'll forget it's on in the middle of the night, or the morning before I've turned it off, and wander out of my bedroom, setting it off and creating a false emergency for law enforcement people. (And btw, yes, there is a way to turn the alarm on, but leave the motion detectors off. Whew.)
2) Fanart!
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3) My Lost S1 DVDs arrived last week. I'd never seen the show before, and have thus far avoided all mentions of it on my flist so as not to get spoiled. I was spoiled on something (fairly minor) when I was still watching Alias and would turn on the TV too early, but other than that, I began watching with a fairly clean slate. After Jade and Robbie left, I was pretty much glued to the TV. I've now almost finished all 6 discs, and I think I'm either at the finale or two eps from the finale.
Lost thoughts...
*** I haven't watched the finale, so please don't spoil me on anything that happens after the episode where Michael, Walt, Jin, and Sawyer sail off on the raft and the other group finds the Black Rock. Thank you. ***
I'll structure this the same way I structure my HP canon thoughts: character/ships/plot.
Characters
Jack: I like Jack, but I don't like Jack. I like him as a character (and I like Matthew Fox), and I generally have enjoyed watching the flashbacks to his past. I thought that one ep where he's all freaked out about being the leader was extremely out of character given his behavior up to that point, but whatever.
Kate: I want to like her more than I do. I really like the whole deal where she was the one being escorted by the U.S. Marshal, and I don't really have any issues with Evangeline Lilly ... but I think her behavior on the island, considering her past, has been somewhat OOC as well. And the more I see of her past, the less I like her. I don't know what she did in order to be a wanted criminal at this point, since most of what we've seen (including how she got Tom killed) has been after she was already on the run. And I'm sorry, but the story of how she wanted that toy plane back, and broke into the bank to get it from the safe deposit box? Kinda lame and weak. If she wanted it that badly, why leave it in the backseat instead of quickly grabbing it? And staging a whole bank heist to get it -- why wouldn't the U.S. Marshal have had that location scoped, since he used the item to taunt her? All rather contrived. Right now I'm most intrigued by Kate's mom's reaction to seeing her daughter at the hospital -- what in the world did she (supposedly) do?? I hope the answer isn't disappointing. It's probably some misunderstanding that poor little Kate had to deal with, when really she's just an angel. 8-|
John Locke: Is he supposed to have an analogous relation to the political philosopher? This does sound like him, though, doesn't it? "Locke wants each of us to use reason to search after truth rather than simply accept the opinion of authorities or be subject to superstition." Well, the beginning part sounds like him; the latter part is not him at all, given his faith in the mystical forces of the island. I really like Terry O'Quinn, and I like his Locke. I really dig his story (the thing about his father was totally heartbreaking, though really, he should have known when it was the same dude who kept trying to put Christian Bale in jail in Newsies), and I find that I really like him, and want to trust him -- but I don't. They've shown him too often standing alone, with creepy/ominous music playing over his image, to make me feel that all is well with him. Plus there's the whole thing where he just seems kind of unbalanced -- his single-mindedness, hiding the hatch, his faith in "the island."
Sawyer: OMG HOT. I love Sawyer. I love his checkered, tragic past. I love his dimples and blue eyes. *sigh* I bet he'd clean up very well. I disliked him a LOT at first. He wasn't just an asshole, he was stupid. But the more we learned about him, the more I liked him. Now he's probably my favorite character. Can we say Redneck!Draco??
Charlie: Charlie annoys me. I don't dislike him, but generally I have no interest in him. A lot of people like Dominic Monaghan, and if I did, I'm sure that would help me like Charlie better. But I don't, so I don't. <g> And I was totally and completely done with him when he killed Ethan. That was the stupidest thing ever. And where the hell did his gun come from??
Claire: It took me awhile to like Claire, because a) pregnant women don't interest me; their issues are always the same (thus boring); b) I hated Tess (and blamed that partially on Emilie de Ravin, who played her). But I warmed to her, particularly after seeing her story (plus I was impressed by her Australian accent -- not knowing until just now at the IMDB that she is Australian, heehee). She's either greatly improved as an actress, or Roswell didn't give much for her to work with. I'm willing to believe that both is true.
Clarie's baby: I think she ought to name it Boone. Possibly his spirit went into it when he died. :D Was Claire's baby infected with evil when she disappeared, and that's why it needs her "goodness" and to be raised by her? But if the cause of it being evil is the byproduct of the psychic deliberately wanting to strand her there so she'd keep the baby, it doesn't make any sense. Also, the whole thing where he sends her to LA, ostensibly knowing the flight would crash on the way, doesn't make any sense. All he wanted was for her to raise the baby. When she saw him after refusing to sign the adoption papers, she was pretty much going to keep it. So why change his tune, looking like a total fraud, to make her do something she was already going to do? Just to ensure it? I dunno, that seems kind of weak. It'd probably have been stronger if he'd suggested the LA couple during the period when he was trying to convince her to keep it, and be like, "Okay, since you're determined to give it up..."
Sayid: I really liked Sayid right up until he got together with Shannon, and then I was kind of done with him. Plus his backstories don't interest me much. I still like him, but not as much as I did at first.
Hurley: Come on, who doesn't like Hurley? He rocks.
Boone: I was fairly good with Boone until the episode where he died, and then I liked him much more, and was soooo sad about him being the one to get killed off. I can't remember whether it was that episode or a previous one where we finally learn the backstory to his and Shannon's relationship, but I was really into that storyline. It was so, so sad that he died without her there, and obviously she was his last thought. I think that's probably why my feelings toward Sayid cooled. Poor Boone. I wish his death hadn't been the real one, because I wanted to see him get with Shannon! Grrr.
Shannon: Haaaaaaaated her initially. Grew to semi-like her, and then she was off diddling Sayid while Boone was dying, then hated her again. I'm not sure if I believe that she wasn't in love with Boone; I'm not sure she really knows what that feeling is, given what a total spoiled brat she was/is. But I'm back to neutral about her, after seeing her reaction to Boone's death and since Walt gave her Vincent. <3 Vincent.
Jin: I didn't even know Daniel Dae Kim was a regular on the show. I know him, of course, as Gavin from AtS. It's so weird to watch him play this character who can hardly speak a lick of English, when his English is flawless (since he grew up in the U.S.). I keep expecting him to break out in English (and I don't know why they didn't take advantage of it during his centric episodes, do the same thing that they did with Sayid, where they pan away for a second and then instead of subtitles they're speaking in English, though you understand that they're supposed to be speaking in their own language), or be the one who secretly knew English. Jin was someone I had to grow to like. I didn't like him at first, but that feeling thawed as the show went on.
Sun: I like Sun. I like the actress who plays her, and I dig her storyline.
Michael: Michael, like Sayid, was someone I grew to like less as the show progressed. He's just whiny, and belligerent, and his parental skills leave a lot to be desired. I know there are reasons for that, but I can't say it really much matters to me. I didn't like any of the people in his story, except maybe for Vincent.
Walt: I generally like Walt. I like that he told his father about burning the first raft. I'm interested to see where his storyline is going to go, considering we know he's "different." But I wish he'd told someone other than Locke not to open the hatch. *sigh*
Ships
Jack/Kate: Far too obvious from the beginning, thus earning it zero points in the "interesting" department. Also, as with all JJ Abrams ships, too much happens, too fast. The very first week, Kate drops everything, including the very important thingy that Sayid needed to get done, in order to help move rocks and get Jack out of the cave? WHATEVER. Like she even knows him at that point. And given her past, I can't believe that she would fall for someone that quickly, or trust them that quickly either. So it was out of character and far too soon for that kind of behavior even had she been a normal woman with no baggage.
Kate/Sawyer: I find this one more interesting to watch, but mostly because of Sawyer. But I like this one less than Jack/Kate, because a) I don't think Kate deserves Sawyer; b) she's obviously more interested in Jack, and Sawyer should have better than that; c) they're too alike (in a bad way, unlike Buffy and Spike, who I think are alike in a good way) and d) it's too much like shipping Draco/Hermione.
Charlie/Claire: This one kind of came out of nowhere, and I'm not particularly interested in it, since I don't like Charlie and Claire is only vaguely intriguing as a love interest.
Sayid/Shannon: As already said above, this one irritates me. I don't like it.
Shannon/Boone: Really liked this one, and was disappointed that it was clearly not going to work out.
Jin/Sun: Grew to like it. When I didn't like Jin I was rooting for Sun/Michael, but that's pretty much passed. It's soooooo tragic what they were each planning when they got to the airport in Sydney. :((
Claire/Sawyer: Okay, this isn't a canon ship, but I think it's the one I'd be most interested in. Jade mentioned it when I was on disc 2 or something, and I while I could see why it might interest her, I wasn't intrigued with it myself. But two moments in the upcoming eps changed my mind: 1) When Sawyer calls Claire "mamasita" and proceeds to brag, "She likes me."; 2) When his voice was the only thing that would calm her baby. <3 Sawyer needs a bit of goodness in his life, someone like Claire. And I think he'd probably be a really great dad for her baby -- and great between the sheets for her. <g> At this point, he's practically reformed, so I think this is a reasonable ship to sail on... (boy does that sound familiar).
Plot and Other Stuff
* One of the problems I've had with the show is that it introduces too many big/important things, and then 'forgets' about them until later -- but in a way that doesn't make any sense. Claire disappears, and there's NO search effort for her? If she hadn't wandered back on her own, how the hell did they expect to get her back? Or did they just give her up for dead? I mean, not even Charlie was like, "We have to organize a search party!" And what about Locke's legs? We're shown that he's losing feeling in them, and then after Boone dies he doesn't seem to have problems walking anymore -- so are they fixed again or what?
* The 'monster' in the woods? So not scary. I don't get scared by bushes moving around. We never get to see anything -- or even the hint of something. How the hell do they know it's huge, when it's like, invisible?! I hate that.
* Why was Jin shown to be all "let's keep to ourselves" when discussing the others with Sun, and then suddenly passing food out to people? WTF? That bit of OOCness made me think he was trying to poison them on purpose or something! Speaking of Jin, why did he freak out when he saw the watch on Michael's wrist? As if Michael's supposed to know it was something he was going to deliver to LA? As if Jin wouldn't know that given the circumstances, Michael wouldn't know jack shit and it wasn't a sign of disrespect or anything?
* I've really liked how much planning went into the overall storylines, and so we see all the little things that don't make sense at first, but then are connected together. JJ Abrams is really good at that -- Alias was the same way. I just hope Lost does not go the way Alias did, although I've given up hope re: any of his ships.
* I'm intrigued by what the numbers mean, and what the Black Rock is, and how everything fits together, but I'm also leery. It could be very cool, or it could be overhyped suspense, the way the stupid toy airplane was. My problem with it is that there are too many pieces, and I'm just not sure that they'll all tie up in a neat, cool bow. I'm afraid they'll X-Files it. And speaking of XF, I'm just not sure how much of it is going to be some science fiction/fantasy explanation -- whether it'll involve mystical forces, or aliens, or what.
* I don't know how/what they're going to do for S2 of this show. I mean ... is it going to be a Gilligan's Island thing, where they're just stuck there forever (until they get canceled)? Are they going to get a new group of plane crash survivors every season (I can't imagine that's the case)? Are they going to get off the island? None of those scenarios really appeal to me. Maybe they'll all wake up and it'll be 2 years in the future. </sarcasm>
* Continuity issue: Kate claims to be a vegetarian, but don't we see her eating bacon and eggs at the farmer's house in Sydney? Did she become a vegetarian during the subsequent time she spent there, which seems unlikely given that it's a farm and vegetarian food choices wouldn't exact be abundant?
Despite these issues here and there, I think it's a fantastic show. I'm glad I got to see it commercial-less and not drawn-out, and it's been very difficult to turn off my TV in order to sleep/clean/unpack. I know my mom will really like it, so that'll give her something to do when she visits next month while I'm at work. :D
But because I basically powered through all the episodes, I've missed all the dissecting of the episodes that goes on in fandom, and probably the nuances of certain characters/relationships as well. So have I missed anything? Other than the (no doubt big and important) stuff in the final eps?
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Date: 2005-09-12 07:20 pm (UTC)Sawyer/Claire 4 evah! The only safe ship to ship in JJ Abrahms' world is the ship that doesn't really exist. Though I am totally on board with Jin/Sun. I was totally heartbroken by what they were each planning at the airport, and what it all implied. And Jin won me over for good.... wait, you may not be there yet, as you are being v. vague with exactly how many eps are left. So I hold my tongue.
The thing I really love about Lost, all other scary island things, ships, and everything else aside, is the premise that all these people ended up on that doomed flight for very specific reasons, because they had to grow, or because they had to stop running, or stop living in the past and learn to be people, or because it was actually the only safe place for them. And maybe they all had to do it together, all these people who couldn't be more different from each other. I also like that there's a big, diverse cast, which I wish we saw more of in primetime television.
I agree with you completely, re: Locke, but I am not opposed to Shannon/Sayid. I was, however, in to Boone/Shannon, and was tres sad when Boone died. Charlie/Claire means less than nothing to me. And in fact, I wanted to smack Charlie several times, when he shot Ethan, when he was all crazy about getting her back, really, any time Charlie goes all crazy, they lose me.
I enjoy that they all started playing golf, and that was one of my first genuinely fond moments for Sawyer, when he joined in. I totally love him now. I don't know if he's my favorite character, mostly because I don't know that I *have* a favorite character. I tend to like everyone best when they're forced to interact with everybody else -- I do enjoy that all the actors seem to have genuine chemistry and a good rapport with one another.
I want to say something about Sun, but I am also going to hold my tongue until I know where you are precisely. Remind me I had something to say about her.
So much love for Hurley.
I can't go on. There endeth my attempt at actually typing real fandomy thoughts out.
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Date: 2005-09-12 07:36 pm (UTC)I do like how diverse the cast is. When it first began I was like, wow, there are no obvious ships that are going to form from this; how unusual. (Well, other than Jack/Kate, because JJ just can't resist.) Actually, the most obvious ship other than Jack/Kate was Shannon/Boone, and while I'm certainly a lot less fazed by brother/sister UST after fandom, it still kind of made me go WTF -- since we don't learn their true relationship until way later.
I'm not sure when I started to love Sawyer. Definitely during his centric ep, I cemented the love, but I'm not sure if I had started feeling some fondness for him before that. And then when he was the little boy w/ the white-blond hair who had to hide under the bed... :((
Well, who are your fave characters if you don't have a fave? I'll say top 3, though I'm sure you're going to break that rule in some way.
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Date: 2005-09-12 07:43 pm (UTC)I dug that it was Sun who was doing the poisoning, at Kate's behest. I liked that little glimpse of a dark side for Kate, and gave me a little hope that she may have actually done something truly bad, instead of merely being misunderstood from way back when.
Top 3, in no particular order:
Sayid
Sawyer
Sun
Sun just barely edged Hurley out. If Locke weren't so creepy, he would make the list.
Vincent was also in contention. But my top 3 stands firm.
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Date: 2005-09-12 08:55 pm (UTC)I didn't like the Jin/Sun smooch as much as I liked the moment of her giving him the book of translations and what he had to say to her after that. :( Haha, Jin/Michael rocks. There ought to be a fic somewhere where the raft sets sail for many months, and Jin and Michael fall in love and Jin adopts Walt. :)))))
It wasn't really Kate's behest -- she just came up with the suggestion. Kate's had plenty of dark side moments, which is why I like her less the more I see of her past. And yet I just know that what she did, the "ultimate bad thing," won't actually be a bad thing at all. Or will have happened in a way that wasn't her fault, a gray area, or whatever.
I think my top 3 are: Sawyer, Sun, Locke, in terms of the storylines that interest me most. Vincent is so the best one.
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Date: 2005-09-12 07:39 pm (UTC)Boone/Shannon 4evah! Except not so boo for me, I guess.
Vincent...he's going to turn out to be controlling this whole thing, I just know it.
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Date: 2005-09-12 07:43 pm (UTC)*weeps like a little girl*
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Date: 2005-09-12 08:57 pm (UTC)I can't believe you watch Lost. Isn't it a little too normal/mainstream for you? You tend not to watch the things that everyone else watches, I've noticed. You're just kind of out there, in your own world, listening to your own voices. If we were the cast of Lost, you'd be Locke.
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Date: 2005-09-12 09:33 pm (UTC)Producers said that S2 will be even more fascinating, we'll see at the end of this month XD
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Date: 2005-09-12 11:48 pm (UTC)I loved Boone, though, curse those producers and writers.
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Date: 2005-09-12 09:44 pm (UTC)Dude, just because I didn't watch Friends and didn't see Titanic doesn't mean I don't like mainstream. I just don't talk about it as much. Besides., if watching is weird, I don't want to be right.
Yes, I'm just like Locke except for the wheelchair thing and the baldness. The voices....they tell me things.
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Date: 2005-09-12 09:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-12 09:56 pm (UTC)Good day, sir.
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Date: 2005-09-12 10:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-12 09:59 pm (UTC)MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE.
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Date: 2005-09-12 09:58 pm (UTC)Damn we always ship the same! Or was that Jade...Well, really, it's both of you. ;)
Damn, need a Lost icon.
love, lore
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Date: 2005-09-12 10:08 pm (UTC)Also, I didn't mention Jin/Michael and Sawyer/Jack because those are just too obvious, but they might have crossed my mind once or twice.
I think it's Jade you share OTP mind meld with, but I'm happy to get a piece of the action.
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Date: 2005-09-12 11:19 pm (UTC)Now Sawyer/Kate/Sayid...OMG YUM! :D
love, lore
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Date: 2005-09-12 11:44 pm (UTC)But no, let Kate go live with Jack where JJ Abrahms so obviously wants her. Sawyer/Claire/Sayid OT3.
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Date: 2005-09-12 11:47 pm (UTC)will notcannot follow.Actually, my #1 threesome preference might be: Sawyer/Claire/Boone. And Claire could be substituted by Shannon.
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Date: 2005-09-13 02:57 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-12 10:24 pm (UTC)That said, the character drama is very, very good. I'll eventually get the DVDs, assuming the series doesn't jump the shark because they decided they could milk the series one or two more seasons before deciding to sit down and create an explanation that makes sense.
(and I like Jack/Kate. I'm a sucker for predictable ships). :p
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Date: 2005-09-12 11:21 pm (UTC)Watching TV by DVDs is the only way to go, imho.
I think we can remain friends despite our difference of opinion on Jack/Kate. It will be difficult, but we'll pull through.
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Date: 2005-09-12 10:26 pm (UTC)You know, I'd seriously been watching the show for months before realizing that Claire and Tess were the same chick. So, despite my soul-deep hatred of Tess, I like Claire a lot.
Boone/Shannon is definitely my favorite ship the show has to offer - something about the rich kid pseudo-incest tickles my inner V.C. Andrews fan. And Hurley is just the best. Though I have a hatred for Jack and Kate which defies explaination... I just can't like them.
All in all, Lost is one of my favorite shows right now (Grey's Anatomy with Katherine Heigel (sp?) is right up there, too, for another fun Roswell-link). It's just so fun!
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Date: 2005-09-12 11:28 pm (UTC)YES, re: VC Andrews. Although they ruined it by making Boone and Shannon not actually blood related. They should have totally faced that taboo and been all ground breaking with their incestuous love. Mwahahahaha.
I've definitely wanted to watch Grey's Anatomy, but I'll probably wait till it's on DVD. That's like, the only way to watch TV now, imho. I just don't have the patience to wait week after week, commercial after commercial. My actual enjoyment of the shows actually suffers!
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Date: 2005-09-13 03:37 am (UTC)It would have been better if Shannon and Boone had been real siblings, but imo it would have been better if Boone hadn't gotten himself offed. There was so much more that could have been done there!
See, my impatience comes in the form of me being incapable of knowing a show I like is on tv and not watching it... the suspense between episodes is part of the fun for me.
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Date: 2005-09-13 01:14 am (UTC)Confession: I've been caught by "Reunion," but will definitely check out "Lost" ASAP!!!! :)
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